National Socialism Needs Gay People

[lorenzstransky]

I have been asked by a friend to pose the following question. Why do National Socialists deny the fact that homosexuality is natural? Here is what a National Socialist gay person of my aquaintance has to say:

"I remember that the Third Recih was lead by a homosexual (Hitler), who came to power largely due to the efforts of another homosexual (Roehm)."

According to him, homosexuality is perfectly natural. According to him, gay people are the most perfect example of the human species, willing to give himself over to a cause completely, without question that the heterosexual cannot do because of  the pressures of family.

History shows, according to him, that homosexual armies in  ancient Greece remained undefeated for three generations until heterosexuals gained the upper hand.

This friend of mine is National Socialist in every way, save that he is gay.  But, he refuses to associate himself with anything National Socialist because of their reaction to him.

According to him, National Socialism cannot succeed without jhomosexuals.

What is your view?

[Bellatrix]

National Socialism to me involves the expansion of the proper races and people who endanger the growth need to be stopped. Homosexual people stop the population growth as when they have sex they cannot reproduce. They spread diseases which can also endanger the population growth.

Whereas Roehm was openly gay (and murdered…) there was no proof that Hitler was in fact gay and most Historical fact points to him being heterosexual and some people say asexual (no sexual drive) but he was defiantly a womanizer.

I would accept your friend if he were bisexual (that means they can continue the population) however openly gay people are not wildly accepted by National Socialist supporters.


Bellatrix

[Jamie]

Being gay is not natural.  It's fucking gross.  If it were natural then gay men would not have to act like they were girls and dykes wouldn't have to act like they were men.  Get my point?

[atem]

National socialism to me means a certain kind of discipline and respect for nature and the way natural things are organized. It is the opposite of Semitic religions, but its goals do not involve homosexuality. For this reason I think it best to euthanize degenerates but leave moderate and non-risky homosexuals and others alone. The ones who impede nothing and can contribute in other ways should be tolerated under an NS regime, but those freaks with the 6' dildos in the Gay Pride parades... smoke in the chimneys. The reason for that is simple: those who impede you are removed, and those who aid you or are neutral are cultivated. Hitler's Germany was in fact tolerant of most homosexuals who kept their depravity consigned to certain areas. The guys they were gassing are the wackos who were having anal sex in the streets. People try to think this way: "Hitler gassed the gays, I should hate gays," but really it was like this: Hitler had an all-around program of racial health which included removal of broken people, a group that included most Jews and many outspoken, weird, pervertish homosexuals. It also included lots of tards (make retard noises here) and other mental defectives. I think it's a good idea; we don't need extra dysfunctional people, and if we eliminated the dysfunctional worldwide we could trim our population back to a few million.

[OberGruppenFuehrer]

um maybe its cause you cant procreate when your banging soem guy in teh ass?

[OberGruppenFuehrer]

hmm i wonder wh ythat isnt seen as natural

[KMFDM_SpitSperm]

I do not belive in homosexuality... it is merely a mind trick, set forth by an individuals self to gain attention. They belive themselves so much that they forget about the attention they get and forget that it is a lie anyways. A pure society will never consist of homosexuals. neither men nor women. It is a gross thing and i would not have it.

[Einherjer]

I have several issues with this persons logic while I do agree it is a natural occurance I feel it is akin to any other mental or genetic disorder but here is my issues of what is said.

"I remember that the Third Recih was lead by a homosexual (Hitler), who came to power largely due to the efforts of another homosexual (Roehm)."

Hitler was a notorious womaniseras stated before so I'm not sure that his statement there is true.

According to him, homosexuality is perfectly natural. According to him, gay people are the most perfect example of the human species, willing to give himself over to a cause completely, without question that the heterosexual cannot do because of  the pressures of family.

 While Natually occuring I feel he's just talking his disorder up for self importance. Also generally from the actions of this new growing minority of "gay aryan Skinheads" or GASH they seem less deticated to White Power and more into a Sexual fetish. So I just think he's spouting "Gay power" there.

History shows, according to him, that homosexual armies in  ancient Greece remained undefeated for three generations until heterosexuals gained the upper hand.


Now this statement is true and it goes for the Spartans as well. BUT Homosexuality was a whole differant animal back then. Its not at all as it is now. To the Greeks and Spartans Women were inferior and property. One could not love what isnt equal but in thier warrior society it was natural for "battle buddys" to have a little deeper meaning.

 My view is that I think your friend thinks a little too highly of his sexuality and while MAYBE some important NS figures in the past were gay I dont think that homosexuals are what the NS parties need.  However if your friend truely feels he can do great things for the party and now behave improperly I'd see no problem in it. However tact is needed I have no respect for Pranceing Gaylords or bulldykes

[OberGruppenFuehrer]

are you fucking stonned?  hitler had a mistress her name was eva but bill dick.  the thing is if they were gay anyways.  ask bellatrix she knows alot about the third reich.

[Jamie]

Who cares if Hitler was gay anyways?  Hitler is long gone, and you people need to worry about NOW.

[Europe Endless]

Who cares if Hitler was gay anyways?  Hitler is long gone, and you people need to worry about NOW.

agreed. Homosexuality is, at best, a peripheral issue as far as nationalism and greenism is concerned. Hitler would be rolling in his grave if he saw us making a big deal about it. Just give the less degenerate ones their own community where they can bugger each other in private and leave us alone. If they can leave their sexuality at home I don't see how we can't work together.

[OberGruppenFuehrer]

if they left their sexuality at home we wouldnt even know blue boy.

[ladyphlegethon]

agreed. Homosexuality is, at best, a peripheral issue as far as nationalism and greenism is concerned. Hitler would be rolling in his grave if he saw us making a big deal about it. Just give the less degenerate ones their own community where they can bugger each other in private and leave us alone. If they can leave their sexuality at home I don't see how we can't work together.

Why should gay people have to leave their sexuality at home? Are you willing to do the same thing as a straight person? Assuming you are straight.  I mean sexuality and sex is a very normal part of life. It comes up. Why should one groups of peoples have to be outcast and hidden to live in some other area? Why would they not be deemed Equal?

[OberGruppenFuehrer]

yeah sorry i gotta agree with blue boy on this.  we leave our sexuality at home.  have you seen any heterosexual parades?  if gay people acted like everyone else and didnt flame then we wouldnt even know they exsisted.  this isnt about equality its about the way things should be.  women procreating creating an army of aryan children.  and cleaning the home and cooking so when their husband (hopfully at this time we can get a nice paying job to do this)gets home from work or war.  sorry a womens lot in life are to take care of men thats why your nurturers.  i have been biteing my tongue but soem feces has to be said.  but for the bitches that dont have to work but they do work so they can have an extra car in the garage.  F*CK You Miss my social life is more important than the ethics and raiseing of children.

[ladyphlegethon]

*Lady*! I mean no disrespect, but have you learned nothing on this forum? We are here because we are tired of liberalism and egalitarianism. We support traditionalism. Why are you here?

Are you sure your in the right camp? I'm sick of hearing about "Equality"! There are other forums available to you if your not happy here, say one with a more liberal edge to it.......... A little piece of advice, there is no such thing as people being "equal". It doesn't exist. Never has and never will.

Just answer my question. Why should they have to live off some place else? Why not be allowed to live with everyone? Not like they have the plague or something. I do not recall saying I am not happy here. Refrain from putting words in my mouth!