US Nazis disorganized, divided

[valken09 =Malaysian National Socialist=]

Haha indeed. Just to inform you and others next time when I talked about Neo Nazis or Media Nazis means I'm talking about faked Nazis. I will only refer to real Nazis as National Socialist though.

[GreeceMan]

U are correct in that rogue... I dont know either... maybe is our pride that make us sometimes angry with everything, cause we see the clear truth... But it will be far better for our cause to be united. PPl needs us for common sence in this mess world...

[purposeguy]

Just wanted to keep the topic fresh.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyDistricts2008 now survival-oriented

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NationalConstitutionalConvention06  autonomous regional government and a VIABLE plan to diffuse the power of the Federal Reserve

[Saxondog]

My view is we as a group don't organize in the right manner,first we should apply for and demand the same block grants,government money that our enemies are so well finaicned from.How do we continue to overlook the simple truth.Use the established system to our benefit.If this requires following rules that are difficult so what,it is the same for ACORN.tHEY HAVE BECOME MASTERS OF THE GAME,ARE WE LESS?Has or white minds fallen behind these smart liberails?It's truly shamefull,what ever it takes to secure the same money as these minority groups needs to be done.We should organize our best minds to figure out this system and bend it to finiance our goals.1-Saxondog

[Steve-Hoog]

We would need an official organized party before anything can happen.

[Haushofer]

Hey guys,

I'm a liberal who is kinda bored. Looks like you nazis need some kind of catalyst to produce an anger with which to mould you into a searing ball of white, hot rage.

Hows this....?

US nazis are disorganized because they are all bumbling brotherphuckers. I saw a documentary with a bunch of skinny white guys on some dirt bikes armed with some crappy old guns talking about how they were the Fourth Reich. Made me piss my pants with laughter. Obviously a bit of a drop off between the 3rd and the 4th Reich. Considering the 4th Reich encompassed most of Europe, some of Russia, North Africa and stretching out to the Caucasus and the 4th Reich is Skeeter's backyard in Bumfuck, Kentucky.

Love , light and peace.

[equality]

As already summarized in the second post of this thread:

1. Individualism. People become nationalists to make themselves seem cooler, e.g., for the same reason people become liberals. The disease of social self-judgment has reached us as well.

2. No one other than a handful of people understand the ideology because most neo-Nazis insist on distilling it to complaining and hatred in order to attract more members.

3. Incompetence. NS people are so used to being demonized that they accept anyone who swears by their beliefs, no matter how insane (or obviously an informant) this person is.

4. Loudmouths. When you make ideology a rush to the bottom, the loudmouths get all the attention, and thoughtful/powerful people go elsewhere. Smart people get shouted down by impoverished, diseased, angry and impotent failures because the failures "express more fully" their distillation of NS ideology.

That's a formula for failure, right there.

The current NS underground will never amount to anything.

[Haushofer]

Well that cleared things up nicely. It fits in with most of the white power people I have met.

There have been exceptions, though few and far between. Most nazis that I have met don't know diddly squat about their own professed ideology.

[equality]

Well that cleared things up nicely. It fits in with most of the white power people I have met.

There have been exceptions, though few and far between. Most nazis that I have met don't know diddly squat about their own professed ideology.

Yep, just like liberals. It's a bad disease to talk ideology without first studying it.

[Haushofer]

we agree equality - should I be worried?

[Mc]

Hi guys.

I have to give it to you guys, this is probably the most intelligent (for the most part) and open-minded "Nazi" forum I have ever come across.
As for my input, it isn't a set belief, just turning wheels in the mind...

This political platform of LNSGP is great, but is the swastika, the name, and the glorification of Hitler and the Third Reich really going to help or hinder it's own cause?  Granted, these things deserve the honor it's given, but for real success to be achieved... deserve has nothing to do with it.  Change the name, the symbol, etc.  Is it about succeeding as a political platform or being a memorial for what-could-have-been?

Then again, I would have never found this website otherwise. And we would be no better than our enemies if we started acting like snakes in the grass.  (When the conspiratorial become the conspirator?)

Perhaps we should ALL just compromise and hope Ron Paul wins next time.

[atem]

How can we be so unorganized? Why is it we continue to bash and attack each other more than people who are surpressing us?

Because most people involved with far-right politics are insane.

Some (about 25%) come because they think it's the right idea.

The rest (about 75%) come to justify their failings in life, have an identity, or have an excuse to act like jerks.

That's why.

[Crusader651]

The rest (about 75%) come to justify their failings in life, have an identity, or have an excuse to act like jerks.

wonder if there's a difference with other extremist like the left. the extreme-right ideology allow people to be jerks with other races, but for the extreme-left the target to whom one can be a jerk are landlords,cops and people in suits. justify their failing in life and have an identity? i think they are equally guilty of that, extremist ideology doesn't attract good people.

[atem]

The rest (about 75%) come to justify their failings in life, have an identity, or have an excuse to act like jerks.

wonder if there's a difference with other extremist like the left.

No, not at all. Watching the G-20 "protesters" and "activists" in Canada proves that. Burning cop cars, smashing and looting local businesses, and rioting are similar behaviors.

[Crusader651]

most of the extreme-left think this is pointless and justify repression against the extreme-left while accomplishing nothing. at the same time many of them acknowledge that peaceful protest are useless also, but claim it is better than sitting at home doing nothing and it can be a measure of how strong class consciousness is.

anarchists may have a reputation for riots but most of the smart one call those people lifestylist, that is anarchism is a lifestyle for them. there are some who are insurrectionist and think that by doing enough damage like that they can show that the system is not as powerful as it seem and can be resisted, but few take them seriously.

do you agree with this quote

if you attack a posh shop like Starbucks, the poor people wouldn't care. Some of them would actually like it because you make rich kids frown. They actually get more pissed off if you do those peaceful, long marches that cause traffic jams because they all use public transport

also many claim that those rioting never attacked local business but only large corporations like starbucks. i personally feel all of this is useless as windows don't cost much to replace in the first place, most anarchist bombing is very useless unless it is done for animal rights or environmental concerns such as oil where once it delayed building of a pipeline for a week and gained media attention thus people would question why they would bomb it in the first place. then again it doesn't do much and it can easily be used as false flag incident to justify crackdown again. at least the anarchists would be ready to hide if such a thing happen

i think any serious person from the far right would clearly see that immigrant bashing is not a replacement or helping the creation of separate racial homelands. and any serious person on the extreme-left see that riots are no replacement for perhaps strikes? or working for higher class consciousness ( in a nutshell it means being conscious of one's class and class struggle, similar to how nazis use the word race consciousness). i think a better example for the left would be charity, it is the depolitization of poverty for the extreme-left. that is the capitalist system does not have to care about it since charity do it instead.