True culture of the I.E. Folk

[Englishman]

Greetings,

We talk often of culture, specifically here Aryan culture, and there seems to be a little disparity as to what our culture actually is.  To me it is quite clear what our culture was, is and always will be.  It is of course, just as with every other Folk-Group on Earth, our native religion.  Although today we call it Odinism, it has only taken this name due to the myriad other foreign religions taking root on our soil (primarily the desert creeds of Judeo-Christianity), being known to our forefathers simply as ‘the customs’.  The would have referred to what we call ‘Odinism’ as ‘the customs’ because they made no distinction between living their everyday lives and their religion – they were one and the same, you ‘lived’ your religion, for it was your very culture.

Now, just as Shinto is the natural culture/religion of the Japanese, Hinduism of the Indians, folk such as the North American Indians, the Sami, the Egyptians, the Mongols, etc, just like us, have their own organic religions, that have evolved as they evolved as a people.  It is very important that just as we emphasise the need to acknowledge differences in race, we must at the same time acknowledge the integral importance of ancestral religion.  The other surviving indigenous peoples of the world, who are naturally Folkish, are currently doing a far better job of preserving, practising and celebrating their ancestral religion than the vast majority of Indo-Europeans.  However, there is, as many may know, movements struggling to re-establish the old ways of pre-Christian Europe.  An organisation called the Odinic Rite is the Vanguard of this movement, and I strongly recommend all readers to spend some time reading the material on the website.  Here are a couple of quotes from members to perhaps inspire you:


"There is nothing that more clearly defines a Folk's Identity than its natural religion. The organic religion of any folk will define their Identity and encapsulate the potential of that Folk group more than anything else. This is because it is the sum of that folk, the shared experience and the wisdom of that folk."

“Our religion is a natural expression of our deepest feelings and aspirations, enables us to establish a balanced relationship with the natural world around us, and puts us in touch with the well-springs of our ancestral heritage.”


Start with the Q&A section and move on from there:

http://www.odinic-rite.org/qa.htm

Look forward to hearing responses.

P.S. The Odinic Rite is not and will never be a political organisation, nor support any political party.  It is purely concerned with re-awakening the Old Ways.  It is however, a Folkish organisation, with all that this entails.

[Englishman]

Note: when I talk of "a little disparity as to what our culture actually is", I'm not referring to the articles on this site, but the understanding of Indo-European culture by the mainstream (not that many of them in the mainstream seem to even acknowledge the I.E. Folk as a racial group, but thats beside the point here.).  

[Parashar]

I'm Indo-European, and I've lived in India all my life. I've been brought up in a Hindu family, but I'm an atheist.
I don't really believe in 'God' or idol worship, but I do believe in Energy. I believe in that aspect of Hinduism which worships this energy, and tries to discover it within oneself.
When I was smaller, under the influence of my grandfather, I read the Aryan Vedas - The Rigveda especially, which involves animal sacrifice and worship of Fire, Water, Wind, etc.(Can you see a Pagan element) I've also read the many Sanskrit scriptures. In fact my name 'Parashar' is Sanskrit for 'Destroyer'. My name is based on Vedic influence.
So religion has played a major role in my race, in the formation of my character and who I am.

[Dubhthach]

When I use the term 'Aryan,' I think it mean the entirety of all IndoEuropean tribes.  As time passed, different groups formed from the greater 'Aryan' group, different cultures developed.  When I think of culture, my mind instinctively rushes to the rather earthen folk-customs of the Irish and the Hibernian Gaelic tongue.

Panaryanism is just white egalitarianism, which equalises culture and neutralises heritage.

[Parashar]

It is not possible for all Aryans to be white. Aryans in India aren't place because of the climate and the sun.
Panaryanism should not involve white egalitarianism as it's not about skin colour, it's about who's Aryan.
Skin colour does not ALWAYS determines race - it's your origin.

[Dubhthach]

It is not possible for all Aryans to be white. Aryans in India aren't place because of the climate and the sun.
Panaryanism should not involve white egalitarianism as it's not about skin colour, it's about who's Aryan.
Skin colour does not ALWAYS determines race - it's your origin.

You're certainly right about that, although panaryanism is still destructive.  Adding Indian Aryans into the mix while equalising all European tribes is simply destructive.  India has a fantastic and beautiful culture; I don't want to see that vanish in a mass of grey.

[Parashar]

Well said! Panaryanism is really going to destroy the unique culture of India. Indian Aryans and European Aryans are different, even though their place of origin was the same.
However, an alliance between the two to promote Aryan Supremacism within all Indo-european countries wouldn't be a bad idea, right? It would also prevent cultural dissolution.

P.S - I'm glad you see it that way. You're one of the few I've met who thinks India has a beautiful culture. Thanks, it means a lot! Though modern Indian culture is being torn apart by Muslims and Marwaris, National Socialism is the best and only medicine.

[Dubhthach]

Well said! Panaryanism is really going to destroy the unique culture of India. Indian Aryans and European Aryans are different, even though their place of origin was the same.
However, an alliance between the two to promote Aryan Supremacism within all Indo-european countries wouldn't be a bad idea, right? It would also prevent cultural dissolution.

P.S - I'm glad you see it that way. You're one of the few I've met who thinks India has a beautiful culture. Thanks, it means a lot! Though modern Indian culture is being torn apart by Muslims and Marwaris, National Socialism is the best and only medicine.

Well, I don't think of a particular group of people within IndoEuropean races as being 'Aryan,' but rather as all IndoEuropeans as being Aryan.  Frankly, I'm not sure what else this would mean or how we would quantitatively measure such.

Indian supremacy in India, German supremacy in Germany, Austrian supremacy in Austria (Yes, I do disagree with Hitler on this point; Austria is its own culture, just as is America in relation to England), and Irish supremacy in Ireland: these are the ideals.  As for castes, aren't these just specialisation?  I wouldn't consider Brahmin to be 'supreme' in India in spite of their spiritual authority.  Such would suggest a hierarchical class-system, as opposed to a system of specialised cultural order.  Leaders are not supreme to my eyes, but they simply serve a function as necessary as agricultural and manual labour.

[Parashar]

Yeah you've got a point there.
The Brahmin thingy, it's based on caste. And caste used to be based on profession. So it's not feasible.
Brahmins used to be more important in society as Religion played a major role in everyone's lives.

So in order to move forward, the caste system must be forgotten, I guess.

[Dubhthach]

Yeah you've got a point there.
The Brahmin thingy, it's based on caste. And caste used to be based on profession. So it's not feasible.
Brahmins used to be more important in society as Religion played a major role in everyone's lives.

So in order to move forward, the caste system must be forgotten, I guess.

Actually, I should think that the caste system ought to be revised.  You see, it went from meaning specialisation to hierarchy, where it became more a symbol of status as opposed to an indicator of functionality.  You ought to mate within caste that your special skills may flourish.

[Englishman]

Leaders are not supreme to my eyes, but they simply serve a function as necessary as agricultural and manual labour.

Nail on the head there comrade.  Leaders have no use if they have none to lead, and are fools if they consider themselves superior (in intangible matters such as knowledge, wisdom, but also tangible such as crafts and folk art/culture) to those who work and labour in fields such as agriculture or construction.  The base of a pyramid is much larger than the pinnacle, and the pinnacle would not stand so high were it not for a solid, sturdy base.  

Besides, although these days most of our folk are mindless sheep who don't choose to, or even can't, make assessments and draw conclusions about meaningful politics (among other things), there are many workers/peasants who can think for themselves, and as has been shown in history, will overthrow complacent leaders who deemed the 'underclass' as too ignorant to know what was happening , and to meek to resist either way.  It is the hardened handful that spark revolution, not the milling masses.  

'May those who lead be true, and may those who follow be loyal.'

[Brunhilde88]

There is a strong mental/spiritual side to being an Aryan that goes beyond what someone looks like or their origins.  There are millions who look the fair haired, blue-eyed stereotype but who are certainly not Aryan in their essence.  The characteristics of Aryanism are inherited.  They are genetic.  And they are far far more likely to be found amongst those of fair complexion.  This is because it is rare (most likely impossible) that you would ever introduce  non-white genes into Aryans without their Aryan mentality being lost to their blood line forever.   To breed back to an Aryan population would require eugenics which would also have to include breeding for Nordic physical appearance.  That is because this appearance is a collection of rare RECESSSIVE genes - thus making it easier to evaluate purity.  We can do without ambiguity of appearance.  Also if Aryans are to keep themselves as a group there must be no breeding with non-aryans.  The more closely an Aryan resembles the physical appearance of a non-Nordic the higher the probablility of such dysgenic breeding.  Aryans are now mostly in northern Europe, but they can't specifically be identified, are not together in a breeding group, and are diminishing in number along with Whites in general.

[orc nomad]

Out of curiosity, what do people understand to mean "aryan" as there are various peoples that have referred to themselves as being aryan. Personally, I describe myself as being Northern European - my ancestors were mostly british, although I am also part dutch. I tend to stay away from terms like aryan as they are rather vague.

As for Indo-European traditions, religion is a part of that. However, simply converting to paganism is not a short cut to rediscovering our European identity. While I find paganism a fascinating subject, most of the modern pagans I encounter are too progressive/left-wing for my conservative point of view. Also, both of my parents were born in Australia and I have never lived anywhere else so I don't see our culture as being fixed to the European traditions as much as if I were born in a European country. Australia is its own colony and we have developed our own history/traditions.

However, for those interested in pre-christian European history, specifically nordic culture, then I would recommend looking into the Icelandic Sagas.
http://www.sagadb.org/