National Socialism Needs Gay People

[AfroNativeNS85]

Much of National Socialists founders were Bisexual. Madame Blavatsky, and Annie Bastant for one.

THE HOMOSEXUAL ROOTS
OF THE NAZI PARTY







    It was a quiet night in Munich.  The people moving along the streets in the heart of the city were grim.  They walked heads down, hands deep in the pockets of their frayed coats.  All around, the spirit of defeat hung like a pall in the evening air; it was etched on the faces of the out-of-work soldiers on every street corner and in every café.  Germany had been defeated in the war, but it had been crushed by the terms of the Versailles Treaty.  Everywhere the people were still mired in depression and despair, several  years after the humiliating surrender of Kaiser Wilhelm.
    In this atmosphere the purposeful stride of Captain Ernst Roehm seemed out of place.  But Roehm was accustomed to being different.  A homosexual with a taste for boys, Roehm was part of a growing subculture in Germany which fancied itself a superior form of German manhood.  A large, heavy man, Roehm had been a professional soldier since 1906, and, after the war, had temporarily lent his talents to a socialist terror organization called the Iron Fist.  On this night Roehm was on his way to meet some associates who had formed a much more powerful socialist organization.
    At the door of the Bratwurstgloeckl, a tavern frequented by homosexual roughnecks and bully-boys, Roehm turned in and joined the handful of sexual deviants and occultists who were celebrating the success of a new campaign of terror.  Their organization, once known as the German Worker’s Party, was now called the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, The National Socialist German Worker’s Party — the Nazis.


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    Yes, the Nazis met in a “gay” bar.

    It was no coincidence that homosexuals were among those who founded the Nazi Party.  In fact, the party grew out of a number of groups in Germany which were centers of homosexual activity and activism.  Many of the characteristic rituals, symbols, activities and philosophies we associate with Nazism came from these organizations or from contemporary homosexuals. The extended-arm “Sieg Heil” salute, for example, was a ritual of the Wandervoegel (“Wandering Birds” or “Rovers”), a male youth society which became the German equivalent of the Boy Scouts.  The Wandervoegel was started in the late 1800s by a group of homosexual teenagers. Its first adult leader, Karl Fischer, called himself “der Fuehrer” (“the Leader”) (Koch:25f).  Hans Blueher, a homosexual Nazi philosopher and important early member of the Wandervoegel, incited a sensation in 1912 with publication of The German Wandervoegel Movement as an Erotic Phenomenon, which told how the movement had become one in which young boys could be introduced into the homosexual lifestyle (Rector:39f). The Wandervoegel and other youth organizations were later merged into  the Hitler Youth (which itself  became known among the populace as the “Homo Youth” because of rampant homosexuality. - Rector:52).
    Many of the Nazi emblems, such as the swastika, the double lightning bolt “SS” symbol, and even the inverted triangle symbol used to identify classes of prisoners in the concentration camps, originated among homosexual occultists in Germany (some, such as the swastika, are actually quite ancient symbols which were merely revived by these homosexual groups).  
    In 1907, Jorg Lanz Von Liebenfels, a former Cistercian monk whom the church excommunicated because of his homosexual activities (Sklar:19), flew the swastika flag above his castle in Austria (Goodrick-Clarke:109).  
    After his expulsion from the church Lanz founded the Ordo Novi Templi (“Order of the New Temple”) which merged occultism with violent anti-Semitism.  A 1958 study of Lanz, Der Mann der Hitler die Ideen gab (“The Man Who Gave Hitler His Ideas”), by Austrian psychologist Wilhelm Daim, called Lanz the true “father” of National Socialism.
     List, a close associate of Lanz, formed the Guido von List Society in Vienna in 1904.  The Guido von List Society was accused of practicing a form of Hindu Tantrism which featured sexual perversion in its rituals.  This form of sexual perversion was popularized in occult circles by a man named Aleister Crowley who, according to Hitler biographer J. Sydney Jones, enjoyed “playing with black magic and little boys” (J. S. Jones:123).  List was “accused of being the Aleister Crowley of Vienna” (ibid.:123).  Like Lanz, List was an occultist; he wrote several books on the magic principles of rune letters (from which he chose the “SS” symbol). In 1908, List “was unmasked as the leader of a blood brotherhood which went in for sexual perversion and substituted the swastika for the cross” (Sklar:23).  The Nazis borrowed heavily from List’s occult theories and research.  List also formed an elitist occult priesthood called the Armanen Order, to which Hitler himself may have belonged (Waite, 1977:91).
    The Nazi dream of an Aryan super-race was adopted from an occult group called the Thule Society, founded in 1917 by followers of Lanz and List.  The occult doctrine of the Thule Society held that the survivors of an ancient and highly developed lost civilization could endow Thule initiates with esoteric powers and wisdom.  The initiates would use these powers to create a new race of Aryan supermen who would eliminate all “inferior” races.  Hitler dedicated his book, Mein Kampf, to Dietrich Eckart, one of the Thule Society inner circle and a former leading figure in the German Worker’s Party. (Schwarzwaller:67).  The various occult groups mentioned above were outgrowths of the Theosophical Society, whose founder, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, is thought by some to have been a lesbian (Webb:94), and whose “bishop” was a notorious pederast named Charles Leadbeater.
    The SA Brownshirts or Stuermabteilung (“Storm Troopers”) were largely the creation of another homosexual, Gerhard Rossbach (Waite, 1969:209).  Rossbach formed the Rossbachbund (“Rossbach Brotherhood”), a homosexual unit of the Freikorps (“Free Corps”).  The Freikorps were independent inactive military reserve units which became home to the hundreds of thousands of unemployed World War I veterans in Germany.  Rossbach also formed a youth organization under the Rossbachbund, calling it the Schilljugend (“Schill Youth”) (ibid.:210).  Rossbach’s staff assistant, Lieutenant Edmund Heines, a pederast and murderer, was put in charge of the Schilljugend.  The Rossbachbund later changed its name to Storm Troopers  (in honor of Wotan, the ancient German god of storms. - Graber:33).  Rossbach seduced Hitler’s mentor, Ernst Roehm, into homosexuality. It was under Roehm’s leadership that the Brownshirts became notorious for brutality.
    Famous events in Nazi history are also linked to homosexuality; events such as the burning of the German Reichstag in 1932, the 1938 pogrom called Kristallnacht, and the 1944 attempt on Hitler’s life.  Even the enduring image of Nazi book-burning, familiar to us from newsreels of the 1930s, was directly related to the homosexuality of Nazi leaders.  The first such incident occurred four days after Hitler’s Brownshirts broke into Magnus Hirschfeld’s Institute for Sexual Research in Berlin on May 6, 1933.  On May 10 the Nazis burned thousands of books and files taken in that raid.  The Institute had extensive records on the sexual perversions of numerous Nazi leaders, many of whom had been under treatment there prior to the beginning of the Nazi regime.  Treatment at the Sex Research Institute was required by the German courts for persons convicted of sex crimes.  Ludwig L. Lenz, who worked at the Institute at the time of the raid but managed to escape with his life, later wrote of the incident:


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[AfroNativeNS85]

The Thule Society




    In 1912, various followers of List and Lanz formed an organization called the Germanen Order.  Diverging radically from the purely philosophic and spiritual focus of the groups that the two “masters” had formed, the Germanen Order was to take an active role in fulfilling the goals of Ariosophist teachings. “The principle aim of the Germanen Order,” writes Goodrick-Clarke, “was the monitoring of the Jews and their activities by the creation of a center to which all anti-Semitic material would flow for distribution” (Goodrick-Clarke:128).  Only Aryans of pure descent were allowed to become members.  The first World War disrupted the organization, but in the aftermath of the war the chapters of the Order began to engage in direct action against those they considered to be their enemies. 
    After the war the Order began to be “used as a cover organization for the recruitment of political assassins” (ibid.:133) who revived the practices of  the Vehmgericht, a medieval vigilante society whose only sentence was death (Waite 1969:216ff). Prominent among these assassins were Gerhard Rossbach, Edmund Heines and other “Butch” homosexuals who would later help to shape the Nazi Party (Snyder:92, Waite:222f).
    Some 354 enemies of the nationalists were killed over several years in the campaign of Vheme murders, the most prominent being Walther Rathenau, Foreign Minister of the German Republic during World War I. Ironically, many of the victims were killed for sexual and not political reasons.  Waite writes,


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The Feme [Vheme] was often directed against former comrades of post-Free Corps organizations.  The very multiplicity of Bunds and secret societies led to competition, quarreling and death....Competition and conflict was intensified by the fact that many of the Freebooters were homosexuals and hence prone to jealousy and “lover’s quarrels.” The Mayer-Hermann case will serve as an example.
    Oberleutnant Mayer was Kreisleiter of the “Arbeitsgemeinschaft Rossbach.”  He was also, as court testimony euphemistically put it, “an enemy of women,” as was his Leader, Gerhard Rossbach and, supported by a wealthy tobacconist, one Kurt Hermann, he founded his own “Arbeitsgemeinschaft Mayer.”  But Oberleutnant Mayer soon became jealous of a certain Gebauer, a former Baltic fighter, who was also courting Herr Hermann.  Mayer charged Gebauer with treason and sent two of his men to Hermann’s home.  They found the traitor in bed with Herr Hermann -- Frau Hermann was away at the time -- and carried out the sentence of the Feme (Waite 1969:222f).




    In 1917, because of the association of the Germanen Order with political terrorism, its Bavarian chapter changed its name to the Thule Society “to spare it the attentions of socialist and pro-Republican elements” (ibid.:144).  The Thule Society retained many of the bizarre occult theories originated by Blavatsky and “had close ties to Crowley’s organization” (Raschke:339).  Historian Wulf Schwarzwaller writes,

Briefly, the creed of the Thule Society inner circle was as follows: Thule was a legendary island in the Far North, similar to Atlantis, supposedly the center of a lost, high level civilization.  But not all secrets of that civilization had been completely wiped out.  Those that remained were being guarded by ancient, highly intelligent beings...The truly initiated could establish contact with these beings...[who could] endow the initiated with supernatural strength and energy.  With the help of these energies of Thule, the goal of the initiated was to create a new race of supermen of “Aryan” stock who would exterminate all “inferior” races (Schwarzwaller:66f).


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    The leader of the Thule Society was a man named Rudolf von Sebottendorf but its chief organizer was Walter Nauhaus, a former member of the Wandervoegel movement (Goodrick-Clarke:143).  Members of the Thule Society who figure prominently in the rise of Nazism included Hans Kahnert, Dietrich Eckart and Rudolf Hess.  In 1919 Kahnert founded Germany’s largest “gay rights” organization, the Bund fuer Menschenrecht (“Society for Human Rights”) which counted SA Chief Ernst Roehm among its members (J. Katz:632n94).  Eckart, meanwhile, was a founding member of the German Worker’s Party and became Adolf Hitler’s mentor (Shirer:65).  Like Hitler, Eckart was a subscriber to Ostara (J. S. Jones:301n91).
    Dietrich Eckart adopted Hitler as his student in 1920. He later stated that he felt “drawn to his [Hitler’s] whole being” and that he and Hitler developed an “intimate” relationship in which he referred to the younger man as “my Adolf” (Machtan:117).  Eckart never confessed to being a homosexual, but the evidence suggests that he was.  He is alleged by some to have been involved in Tantric occult sex rituals “similar to Crowley’s,” and even to have initiated Hitler into such activities (Raschke:399).  We do know that Eckart was one of the most enthusiastic followers of Otto Weininger, a leading homosexual supremacist whose theories denigrated women (Igra:100). Alfred Rosenberg characterized Eckart as an inveterate misogynist whose “exclusively male company” destroyed his short and childless marriage in 1920 (Machtan:118f).   
    There is no question at all that Eckart was instrumental in Hitler’s early successes.  “With Eckart as his mentor,” writes Schwarzwaller, “the gauche and inhibited Hitler -- the unsuccessful painter, former PFC, who had not even been promoted to corporal because of ‘lack of leadership qualities,’ quite suddenly...became an outstanding organizer and propagandist” (Schwarzwaller:68).
    Like Roehm and Lanz, Eckart claimed credit for “creating” Hitler.  In 1923, shortly before his death, Eckart wrote to a friend, “Follow Hitler!  He will dance, but it will be to my tune.  We have given him the means to maintain contact with them (meaning the “masters”).  Don’t grieve for me for I have influenced history more than any other German” (Schwarzwaller:69).  Though he would later ridicule many of the occultists and their ideas, Hitler dedicated his book, Mein Kampf, to Eckart, and at one time called Eckart his “John the Baptiser” (ibid.:70).
    Hitler’s next spiritual mentor was Karl Haushofer, who later became Germany’s leading theorist on the subject of geo-politics (the scientific study of the influence of geography on political events).  A secret member of the Thule Society, Haushofer is credited with training Hitler to think in terms of world conquest and is believed to have virtually dictated Chapter 16 of Mein Kampf, which outlines Hitler’s foreign policy (Sklar:63f). Haushofer’s Lebensraum (“living space”) theory was later used to justify German expansion, while his familiarity with the Orient allowed him to forge Hitler’s alliance with Japan (ibid.).
    There is evidence to suggest that Haushofer was homosexual as well. In Hitler’s Cross, Erwin Lutzer accuses Haushofer of taking Hitler


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through the deepest levels of occult transformation until he became a thoroughly demonized being. Hitler was even transformed sexually; he became a sado-masochist, practicing various forms of sexual perversion (Lutzer:61).




    More persuasive is the testimony of Ilse Hess, wife of Rudolf Hess, the Thule Society member who would rise the highest in Nazi circles.   Hess, a homosexual (his marriage notwithstanding) was one of Hitler’s closest friends and a fellow student of Haushofer.  Machtan reports that “Ilse Hess...complained that she had gotten no more out of her marriage than a ‘girl confirmand’ and she even compared herself, where ‘the pleasures of matrimony are concerned,’ to a ‘convent schoolgirl’” (Machtan:149).  He adds the following:

Hess had developed a close relationship with Haushofer, who was twenty-five years older than himself. The two of them often spent whole nights sitting together in Haushofer’s home, and they also made joint excursions. “He’s a wonderful person,” Hess enthusiastically told his parents, and Haushofer dedicated to his “young friend Rudolf Hess” a hymn reminiscent of Stefan George [a well-known pederast], which spoke of “his eyes festively illuminating closed doors” just as “a sunset is reflected in a spring.” Ilse Hess later confessed in a restrained fashion, that she had “long been almost a trifle jealous” of Haushofer, who seemed to have positively “absorbed” her boyfriend (Machtan:144f).


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    Hess eventually became the Deputy Fuehrer of the Nazi Party.  Both Hess and Alfred Rosenberg had “an immense influence on Hitler to whom they preached the gospel of the Thule Society” (Angebert:172).  In addition to his involvement with the Thule Society, Hess belonged to yet another offshoot of the Theosophical cult.  It was an organization called the Anthroposophical Society, formed in 1912 by Rudolf Steiner.  Steiner was a former leader of the German Theosophical Society who split with the group following their “discovery” of the new “messiah.”  Hess was also a firm believer in astrology (Howe:152).
    Hitler was also influenced by other members of the Thule Society.  Waite writes,

In describing his initiation into politics at Munich in 1919, Hitler stressed the importance of a little pamphlet entitled “My Political Awakening” ...[written by] a sickly fanatic called Anton Drexler...Drexler was an adjunct member of the Thule Society, the most influential of the many racist anti-Semitic groups spawned in Munich during the immediate postwar period...By the time of the revolution of 1918, the society numbered some 1500 members in Bavaria and included many of Hitler’s later supporters.  Hitler himself, it is reported “was often a guest of the Society”...The actual German Worker’s Party — which was to become the mighty Nazi movement...differed very little from the discussion groups and activities of the Thule Society or the other racist groups to which all the founders belonged.  (Waite, 1977:115).





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Frame21

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    Yet another prominent Nazi who was strongly influenced by the German occult movement was Heinrich Himmler.  Himmler maintained a close relationship with a prominent occultist named Karl Maria Wiligut, who became known as the “Rasputin of Himmler” (Goodrick-Clarke:177).  It is not clear if this designation is meant to imply that Wiligut shared the infamous Russian’s penchant for sexual licentiousness.  Wiligut claimed to have a gift of clairvoyant “ancestral memory,” certainly quite useful to the racial purists of the Nazi Party who were concerned with proving their own Aryan heritage.  Wiligut was responsible for designing the Death’s Head ring worn by members of the SS.
    Under Himmler, the SS became a veritable occultic order.  Christian names of SS soldiers were replaced with Teutonic names, and all members were required to maintain the strictest secrecy and detachment from the rest of society (Sklar:100).  In later years Himmler spent vast sums of money on esoteric research projects such as an expedition to Tibet “to look for traces of a pure Germanic race which might have been able to keep intact the ancient Nordic mysteries” (ibid.:102). (This little-known aspect of Nazi history is, of course, the inspiration for the Steven Spielberg movie, Raiders of the Lost Ark.)
    Himmler may well have been a homosexual (two sources are cited later in the book), however, his intense obsession with secrecy largely shielded him from disclosure of his private life.  He did, however, foster the cult of the maennerbund among his men.  Some report that SS special forces training required recruits to soap each other’s bodies during showers to establish mutual dependency (Reisman, 1994:3).  Later, Himmler would make empty threats against homosexuals in public pronouncements, but it is clear that he was completely comfortable being part of Adolf Hitler’s clique of pederasts.
    In any case, we can see that the occult roots of the Nazi Party ran deep into German history.  It is also apparent that many of the leading occult figures responsible for this legacy were homosexuals.  From ancient pagan roots through Blavatsky to List and Lanz, and to Hitler himself, the evolution of homo-occultism gave the Nazis their theories of an Aryan Master Race and their justification for the vicious extermination of “inferior” life.

[AfroNativeNS85]

I for one dont support gays. I do however support Bisexuality. Those who are Bi can continue reproduction and can increase a populaton. Its natural to have attraction to both sexes it happens more then we think.

[ozymandius drakes]

I for one dont support gays. I do however support Bisexuality. Those who are Bi can continue reproduction and can increase a populaton. Its natural to have attraction to both sexes it happens more then we think.

I don't mind gays as long as they are HONEST about it.  We have way to many clostetd men in the music industry, Lil' Wayne and the Jonas Brothers for one.  Then again it doesn'treally matter since they suck anyway.  As for reproduction they can be gay as long as they contribute gametes for the good of the Herrenvolk.

[AfroNativeNS85]

Exactly. As long as they contribute.

[SoarAndEnvision]

This is absolutely enraging --

The Thule Society had NOTHING to do with homosexuality - and homosexuality is completely contrarian to National Socialism.

I really hope I am not the only person completely apalled by this thread.

[AfroNativeNS85]

I question most of what is said in that thread. For one I dont believe Hitler was a sadomaschist or anything like that. Or anyone in the Nazi party commited sex crimes and other BS like that. But you gotta remember NS goes alot further then Hitler coming to the NSADP. Alot of the other founders of NS were bisexual mainly Madame Blavatsky, and Annie Bastant for one. Her book The Secret Doctine explained alot about that and other things. It was the Thules Societies Bible. Now I have done lot of reading on this subject. But Im welcome to anything someone may want to put of here.

[thetruthrealised88]

i am sickened by some of what was said, but nice to see there are clear thinkers still alive. how can any race survive without reproducing? it cant. i am not a hater of homosexual men or women. if they want the same sex instead of the opposite then let them. they should not contribute to the population though as they are flawed in there genes and would be passing on the wrong message for they're children. if homosexuality was natural then they would be able to reproduce.

i am a new member and this is my first post to the nationalist forum. this subject should never have been written about and thats why i think my opinion is needed. Heil, mein Führer!

[valken09 =Malaysian National Socialist=]

Bah, I remember I've discussed about this topic many months ago. Guess "Homosexuality" is some hot topic to handle.

[VoidLight]

In my opinion; if homosexuality's occurrence is natural, then by all means, it is universal. It will be naturally rejected if it's a natural abominating inevitability.
Three brief pandemic characteristics:

1. Homosexuality stunts population growth

2. Homosexuality spread's disease

3. Homosexuality is a eye sore

I found the solution, listen up. The population will continue to grow but what's of main concern is inspiration of our younger generations feeding off what they see. Let the world be rid of them and inpsiration will no longer influence young minds, thus continuing your family tree! Let the world also be rid of the fore skin for our peepee'. Yet those who are born never ask for their peepee to be circumsized. The fore skin protects the most sensitive part of your peepee, so it wont become numb. All the sexual pleasures we are missing out on that supports reproduction. It is natural, and it's removal should not be controlled procedures, rather if it disturbs a equilibrium, it will naturally dissipate. Removing it is a risk, we do not know if it's dehumanization.

Exotic Diseases such as Acquired immune deficiency syndrome[aides] are impossible to be caused naturally biologically even if you sucked the feces out of a naturally dying old man's ass with a slushy straw. Here's the origin of our pandemic, open your eye's Aryans!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7V-rCTnjw

Option 3, i agree with.

So yea, my opinion. Go easy on me.