Adolf Hitler the lunatic

[creativeblue1978]

We understand your mental disability if you're American

What's your prejudice with Americans Crow? I'm an American. I'm not an Americanist but I'm an American nonetheless. Not all Americans are bad.

[Crow]

I know but you can't trust any of those.

[creativeblue1978]

I know but you can't trust any of those.

Can't trust Americans or can't trust Americanism in general? Americanism is distrustful I would have to agree.

[surtr]

The holocaust is a MYTH created by Soviet degenerates to have their Western allies hand over more of their share of land to them. If you believe in the holocaust, then you also believe in global warming and santa claus....

[valken09 =Malaysian National Socialist=]

global warming

Just to comment, we can't really tell if global warming is really 100% True of False because we don't really have the equipments yet to determine what actually causes this Phenomenon either its caused by our "Carbon Habit" or Solar Activities or etc., time will tell.

santa claus

Certainly Saint Nick existed but Mr.Santa on flying snow sled doesn't.

The holocaust btw, is over exaggerated. Couldn't agree more that its a myth. Of course Jews did died in the war. Why? Because its war, people died in more violent vicious way than being "Gassed" to death.

[surtr]

Global Warming, within the context of how it is presented and sold is a myth, although your statement is correct when taken generally.

Your last statement is also correct, because most jews did die in concentration camps, just like most German POWs, out of malnutrition and typhoid. Germans, nonetheless, tried their best to disinfect jews with Zyklon B, do they wouldn't get typhoid and die. Sounds like a lot of work to later "exterminate" them.

Even gassings would have been unnecessary. Just place them in a camp and don't feed them or rid them of dirty clothing and don't provide them with sanitary conditions. They would have died a lot quicker and in mass.

The whole thing is ridiculous because it is untrue. The point of the story is not to sell the idea that Germans killed jews, but that they killed them with horrid malicious and perverse intent and method.

[creativeblue1978]

The holocaust is a MYTH created by Soviet degenerates to have their Western allies hand over more of their share of land to them. If you believe in the holocaust, then you also believe in global warming and santa claus....

Even the people of this website recognize the fact that the holocaust did happen and shouldn't have. As to how many Jews actually died in the genocide that's another issue. Morality is subject to debate as well. I also believe that global warming is a real issue and shouldn't be overlooked. How can you not think that the millions or billions of tons of toxic chemicals and/or pollutants that we pump into the air all around the world isn't having an affect on the earth's atmosphere? I never did believe in Santa Claus... the religion I was brought up in taught that Christmas was a pagan holiday and therefore should not be celebrated or encouraged in young people.

[creativeblue1978]

Of course Jews did died in the war. Why? Because its war, people died in more violent vicious way than being "Gassed" to death.

All things considered being gassed to death is not such a bad way to go. More peaceful and non-violent than many other ways to die. Also very efficient like the Germans were. You'll never convince me that Jews were not in fact gassed in some concentration camps. Not that it matters either way.

[surtr]

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Even the people of this website recognize the fact that the holocaust did happen and shouldn't have. As to how many Jews actually died in the genocide that's another issue. Morality is subject to debate as well. I also believe that global warming is a real issue and shouldn't be overlooked. How can you not think that the millions or billions of tons of toxic chemicals and/or pollutants that we pump into the air all around the world isn't having an affect on the earth's atmosphere?
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I don't believe most people on this site agree that the holocaust, as presented, is accurate. But if that were true, it obviously has nothing to do with reality. Most people believe a lot of stupid and incorrect things. If you doubt the issue, just study it a bit more closely and come back at a later time and we can debate it.

When it comes to global warming, you seem to be confusing two separate issues. One thing is to consider toxic dumps and pollution as negative things upon our environment, and the other is to believe the ludicrous proposition that the earth is warming because of it. It is a FACT that the earth is actually cooling not warming. Also, if you look into our past, you will find the earth a lot warmer and a lot cooler, and all this without any of our influence. Lastly, the leaked emails just released a few weeks ago prove that environmentalist leftists are fooling around with the numbers so that they can cash in on all of the 'green industries' that they are investing in. This radical change of policies will also allow world government, something that most people on this site DO disagree with.

[creativeblue1978]

I do need to do some more study into the Jew genocide called the Holocaust there is no question. I would be interested in reading some of the denial information out there just to see the other side's point of view.

As for global warming it seems the consensus has changed somewhat. The talking heads on the conservative right (e.g., Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity etc. etc.) and the latest information about hacked emails points out some interesting facts about the issue. Just a couple of years ago they were saying the earth was warming and the summers were record temperatures to prove it, now they are saying it is cooling and the winters prove it as well. It's all interesting information. There are two issues. Whether pollution is bad for the environment and whether that pollution is causing or contributing to global warming. I don't think we should throw the baby out with the bath water just because some emails are corrupt and the consensus of the scientific community may be changing or in a state of doubt. And even if the temperature isn't rising we should still be concerned about human caused air pollution. The consequences of not acting or not taking seriously the issue may be something we all regret years to come down the road.

Are you saying that the summit or meeting in Copenhagen is counterproductive or fraudulent like Rush Limbaugh believes? What's the consensus of the people on this website? I know their stance on the U.N. and the E.U. A one world gov't would be bad for all nationalists everywhere. I don't have much confidence in world leaders of democracies. I know nothing good will come out of the Copenhagen meeting. People can't agree on anything we their own kind how are they going to agree when they are different in so many ways. We could have avoided all of this mess if Fascism had won.

[surtr]

I think you response is right on... it is odd to find people who are willing to look into issues that they are not very familiar about before making assumptions. I am the exact same way about matters I am not very familiar with, instead of simply fighting over it for the sport of it.

When it comes to pollution, I wholeheartedly agree. Just like many other true things, unscrupulous governments utilize these sorts of things to increase their power and decrease national sovereignty. This to me is the problem. Like George Carlin used to say, it is quite arrogant of 'humanity' to attribute to ourselves changes in temperature and other natural phenomena... although studying the possibility is still an important endeavor.

Nonetheless, I do believe that Global Warming SPECIFICALLY is a ruse to usher in global governance, but that is simply my personal opinion, backed by some good science that seems to indicate I am correct.

Great exchanging a few lines with you...

[creativeblue1978]

No question it's a power grab by the left and that is their whole purpose behind supporting the issue (the talking heads are right on this one) but I feel we shouldn't overlook the possibility of there being a real threat or serious concern. The risk is too great to ignore and the future of the planet can't be put on the back burner because we feel we must fight over petty differences in political opinions. The left and the right seem blind to many issues. Their worldview seems limited to certain positions without any compromise or scope of vision in sight. I think Craig hit the nail on the head when he said they are worldblind. 

[traintraveler]

I used to subscribe to the IHR Journal, Barnes Review, and a few other revisionist periodicals. Aquainted myself with what the arguments were relating to "Germany the Evil" and the "holocaust." But I can't afford to subscribe to everything I like, that's interesting. Revisionist subscriptions tended to be pricey so I haven't subscribed to them in a while. Nevertheless, I did read a few of their many books that they offered. I recall the arguments or issues raised by Dr. Arthur Butz with "The Hoax of the 20th Century," Fred Leuchter's books as well as James Bacque "Other Losses." There's quite a few more I'd like to buy/read. In short, these revisionist people raise sincere points relating to holocaust deaths, lack of professional forensics, and unethical conduct of allied nations in dealing with questioners. Like those who once risked death simply to express their observation that the Earth is not flat... So it goes (nearly so) with trying to address questions relating to the holocaust from the revisionist quarter.. And frankly, the moment someone says to me that I am not allowed to question... Well..  That don't cut it with me. They, the holocaust promotion people, by turning it into a sort of tyranny (believe it, speak it, or else) have sewn a bad seed with me. A big one.  Books are good. -Read some.

[creativeblue1978]

Thanks for the list of books to read traintraveler. I sincerely will. Just as soon as I read the Media Monopoly and An Empire of their Own: How the Jews invented Hollywood. The subject of Nazism fascinates me and I want to know all that I can about it. And from all points of view.

Blue~

[traintraveler]

The Versailles Treaty awarded large regions of Germany to other nations (Poland and France, mainly). There were many millions of German citizens living in those awarded lands. The several million Germans in the region awarded to Poland were shortly thereafter forced to leave. I don't recall how many Germans died (mostly elderly, children) during the return to their homeland. But media of today pays no attention those crimes against humanity as it doesn't involve "the Chosen," the Jews. Meanwhile, in the new nation of the USSR, more engineered starvation and grand scale slaughter of  civilians were taking place. Throughout the 1920's and into the '30's, European media, especially newspapers and radio in Germany, informed people of the horrid attrocities taking place in the  USSR. Lenin, and later Stalin, had their butchers. One butcher, Lazar Kaganovich, engineered the deaths of around 9 million Ukrainians (known as the Holodomor). Of course, we don't hear about it nowadays because it's not significant..only attrocities committed against  the Chosen (and by their enemies) are institutionalized and obsessed on. In the course of the Versailles Treaty money reparations were also demanded of Germany which kept the nation perpetually destitute, bankrupt. At the signing of the Versailles Treaty, Keynes was required to sign against his judgement. Keynes said, "I estimate withing 20 years there will be another war because of this." 
       President Kennedy said that one day people will realize how great a man Adolf Hitler was.
       I think likewise. National Socialist Germany sought self-determination, self-reliance and the protecting of their Race and culture.
       There are some other concerns I'd like to cover. And that is Allied "propaganda."  -Woodrow Wilson and his program to get the U.S.A. into the War against Germany. Which I'll get into another time.
       Here's one of my favorite quotes...And what a coincidence, it's German!
                Shopenhauer:      "All truth passes through three stages.
                                    First, it is rediculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.