Greetings FuckalltheNazis,
I just want to tell you something really important (for your brains).
Excellent. Go right ahead. And, since---though I’m not a National Socialist---I enjoy responding to anti-Nazis, I will tell you precisely what I think of your post: it is misinformed in the extreme. My goal in responding to your comments is to convince you to do some research on what the LNSG believes, and then return when you feel that you are well enough equipped to debate with National Socialists in an intelligent manner.
Your party (and Hitler) fucking losed because you guys are a bunch of mindless racist bastards.
The past tense of “lose” is “lost”, by the way.
So, your question is essentially “How did World War II get started?”
I tend to trust traditional historians on this point.
I think, however (and I may be mistaken), that many users on this board would answer your question by pointing to the writings of
Viktor Suvorov. Read his arguments and see what you make of them. (My familiarity with Suvorov’s work is based on secondary sources at present, but I intend to begin rectifying that on my next trip to the library.)
I believe that the strain of classical National Socialist racial thinking which most influences the LNSG is Nordicism. I suggest you consult chapter 2 of Anna Bramwell’s “Blood and Soil: Walther Darre and Hitler’s ‘Green Party’ ”for a useful overview of the ideas of the principal Nordish racial theorists. Then tell me if you think these men had a genocidal hatred of others.
Leaving aside the racialism of the NSDAP, it should be blatantly obvious to anyone who bothers to read the LNSG website that this particular National Socialists group does not promote genocide. They support
pan-nationalism (Germany for Germans, France for the French, and so on). Here are some links that will explain LNSG beliefs:
About the LNSGLNSG FAQThe 25 Points of the NSDAPAlbert SpeerHitler and Anti-SemitismMedievalismThe State of Nationalism, 2006A Nazi Reading List: EnvironmentA Nazi Reading List: RaceA Nazi Reading List: NationalismAnd some of you still are . 1 , the ideea to kill the Jews , why?
Nobody on this board (to my knowledge) supports killing Jews. The advocacy of a Jewish nationalist state in Israel is very much
a part of the LNSG’s pan-nationalist program.
no ideea , ( oh yeah , God was a Jew ) maybe because they were very rich . Why they were very rich?
Once again, LNSG members do not support genocide.
Of course, Jesus was a Jew. What is your point? I don’t think LNSG members view all (or even most) Jews as morally degenerate. They have issues with some modern forms of Judaism and Christianity, but that’s another topic, and not relevant to the discussion here. Regarding the Nazarene, while I can’t speak for Nationalists, I view him as a wholly human visionary whose message was misunderstood by his followers. Check out “The Gospel of Thomas” and Kahlil Gibran’s “Jesus, the Son of Man” for two very interesting perspectives on the teachings of Christ.
Not all Jews are good with money. You’re generalizing. Further, I seriously doubt your assumption that economic envy of those Jews who *are* good with money played a significant role in determining the LNSG’s stance on Jews and Judaism.
because they wre thinking.
I agree with you on this: there is much to be admired in the Jewish faith. I am particularly attracted to the Judaism’s conception of the holiness of the mind; not the atomized individual intellect, but reason fully engaged in the service of the Divine (see the introduction to “Invitation to the Talmud” by Jacob Neusner).
And if "to think" means "to ged killed" then almost all the Earth's popullation should be dead (except you guys and other groups like the Socialist party).
Thinking for yourself would not get you killed in a Nationalist society such as the one envisioned by the LNSG. Indeed, even if critical thinking was deemed a capital offense, almost all the Earth’s inhabitants would survive unharmed, because they either can’t think, or chose not to. If you chose not to use your mind, you are---in a very real sense---dead already.
“It is an error to divide people into the living and the dead: there are people who are dead-alive, and people who are alive-alive. The dead-alive also write, walk, speak, act. But they make no mistakes; only machines make no mistakes, and they produce only dead things. The alive-alive are constantly in error, in search, in questions, in torment.”- Y. Zamyatin, “A Soviet Heretic”
Like it or not , your "god" was the greatest murderer of all time , killing peoplle for no reason , and you guys doing this for him.
The LNSG does not treat Hitler as a god. The party’s stance is: take what you can from Hitler and
move on.
In terms of sheer numbers, Stalin was the greatest mass-murderer of all time (Reference: “Death by Government” by R. J. Rummel, cited on page 40 of “World War II: The Rest of the Story and How it Affects You Today” by Richard J. Maybury.)
The position of nazi.org on the origin of the Holocaust seems to be that Hitler lost his original pan-nationalist vision in early 1940’s---which led directly to the senseless killing in the concentration camps (for more information on this, see the article on Albert Speer linked to above).
Most modern Nazis---at any rate, most of those I’ve interacted with---are not interested in harming innocent people. Rather than pick an “Other” to demonize or exploit, they would prefer to build a world of ethno-nationalism for all peoples, in which they think each ethnicity can develop to its fullest potential.
“Everyone who regards himself as the master of another is himself a slave. Even if he be not really a slave, he certainly has the soul of one and will cringe basely to the first man strong enough to subdue him. He alone is free who wishes to make all around him free.” –Walther Rathenau (quoted on page 106 of “Walther Rathenau: His Life and Work” by Harry Kessler)
I hope this has clarified things somewhat.
Sincerely,
Mindfrost321 (the resident non-Nazi)
