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03/03/2009: "Israel's new far right"
"I also advocate the creation of a viable Palestinian state," Avigdor Lieberman says nonchalantly in an article for the Jewish Week of New York.
One of the central tenets of Lieberman's recent election campaign was that Arab Israelis are a danger to the country. The slogan of Israel Beiteinu (which means "Israel our home") was "no loyalty, no citizenship". Lieberman's racist rhetoric sent a chill through many Israelis, but regrettably not enough.
Conventional wisdom would consider Lieberman's rise, which has contributed significantly to Binyamin Netanyahu's capacity to form a government, as a sign Israel has taken a sharp turn to the right. True enough â€" but that doesn't tell the whole story. Lieberman's success signifies not so much a return of Israel to the right as it does the rise of a new right, which prioritises Purer Israel over Greater Israel.
[ Sounds good. All Jews should live there (no more ZOG) and all other nations should prioritize their purity too.]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/02/israel-palestinian-territories
Replies: 11 Comments
on Wednesday, March 11th, Osama bin Laden said
Again, that is not a particularly accurate view of history. I am beginning to tire refuting your non-sense.
1. "love one another" has nothing to do with racialism. it is merely a moral transformation. all the "others" were people in your tribe so it could not possibly result in the selection of non-racists over racists.
2. "convert all men" - I addressed this and gave examples of pre-christian universalism (pre-Christian Roman Empire). Its bogus anyway. The Germanic tribes conquered quite a few other European tribes, ruled over them, imposed their rules, and eventually integrated (racially) with them. How come that is different?
3. Simplistically saying that all of the racially inclined people would refuse to convert under any circumstance is utterly absurd. Those who chose to convert often did so nominally or simply to save their lives with the clear view that they could not effectively resist.
The dismal state of culture today has absolutely nothing do with your absurd theory of slaughtering those who refused to convert.
"The Church's conflicts against jews and muslims were not based on racial, but upon 'religious' or economic motives"
By mere fact that the Jews and the Moors were "others" with often hostile motives, they were opposed. I realize that racial theory itself really did not exist back then, however, the implied racialism of being opposed hostile outsiders was in effect. "love one another" certainly did not apply here, did it?
on Wednesday, March 11th, Cesare said
Christianity through its non-racial teachings of 'love one another' and 'convert all men' was antithetical to ethnic germanic paganism which lacked those ideals or objectives. All those who resisted these new foreign semitic teachings for ethnic/religious reasons were deemed heretics and eradicated by the Church thus leaving in their place a majority of obedient christianized slaves to transmit their inferior genes. That's how a people that produced vikings who enslaved slavs etc., can be changed into what they are now. Of course there are still scandinavians who are war-like and anti-christian but that segment is a very small minority due to the effects of continual 'christian dysgenics'.
The Church's conflicts against jews and muslims were not based on racial, but upon 'religious' or economic motives. The Church throughout history has employed aryans to wage its wars, similar to how the jews organized dumb non-racial aryans to fight Hitler.
on Tuesday, March 10th, Osama bin Laden said
Cute explanation but not particularly accurate.
Can you provide some sort of historical proof that European man was ethnocentric up until the rise of christianity? Can you provide proof that heretics were burned for their racial views? (I doubt it). How exactly did early christians discriminate against racists when there were hardly, if any, non-whites around for people to interact with in some sort of racist fashion?
You seem to forget that Christians persecuted Jews (a fact you convieniently gloss over) and conquered non-white races the world over. Christian Charles Martel battled the dusky skinned Moors and drove them out of Europe. So clearly Europeans weren't these magical raceless creatures you make them out to be.
Yes, I agree with Nietzsche that Christianity is an absurd religion and a moral cesspit but your explanations are rather lacking.
I also suggest this reading: http://web.archive.org/web/20080115180316/http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/WesternOrigins.htm
Europeans, especially those of northern extraction, never were particularly ethnocentric to begin with (not totally lacking in ethnocentricity, just very nominally ethnocentric as compared to others). The universalism of Christianity is hardly new - pre-christian Roman civilization is a great example.
Try harder.
on Tuesday, March 10th, Cesare said
Jews are a mongrel breed of man consisting of caucasoid, mongoloid and negroid DNA in divergent ratios.
From the 2008 book 'Jacob's Legacy': "The Y chromosomes of Jews living in Europe are more typical of Semitic populations than, say, German or Scandinavian ones."
Ever since Christianity conquered the pagan germanic tribes they have actively executed all those who opposed their jewish multi-racial creed as 'heretics' and 'witches'; thus forming a majority of moronic servile converts who then passed on their specific degenerate genomes to produce egalitarian, judeo-centric 'aryan man'; while concurrently greatly reducing the frequency of the ethno-centric/racist alleles from the aryan genepool. That is how populations or peoples can change over time through coercive 'artificial selection'. Of course, they didn't breed all 'racists' out, but most them. And that's why the world is shit, because most modern aryans are products of 'christian dysgenics.'
Or as Friedrich Nietzsche wrote in "The Antichrist": "The reverse type has been willed, bred, achieved: the domestic animal, the herd animal, the sick animal man--the Christian."
on Monday, March 9th, Osama bin Laden said
Cesare, it is not my point to say that one's DNA does not affect their social behavior and hence their culture. However, a purely genetic view is insufficient. DNA cannot explain white cultural decadence in today's age. DNA cannot explain why the descendants of Vikings are leftist materialistic consumer whores.
Also, while Jews are genetically distinct enough to have their own distinct "cluster", they are not racially distant from European whites and certainly do not qualify as a distinct biological race.
This is the case where Spengler's "Decline of the West" would be an advisable read.
on Friday, March 6th, Cesare said
The cognate genetic code of a race or people determines their collective culture and behavior. Just as the combination of specific DNA base pairs (A,G,C,T) produces breeds of man like Germans and Anglo-Saxons who can organize an advanced civilization, so it is also responsible for the manifestation of "civilization-challenged" races like negroes and parastical interlopers such as jews and gypsies.
on Thursday, March 5th, Osama bin Laden said
Its not a genetic thing its a cultural problem.
Jews have centuries of culture built around living in a diaspora and little actual interest in being an independent people (beyond the residents of Israel who are mainly emigrants left over from the aftermath WWII and the USSR).
Jews have amassed untold riches and put themselves in positions of world domination - why would they give that all up just to move to Israel?
The only way Jews will move to Israel is if they're persecuted again or if things get so bad here (economically or otherwise) that they feel the need to ban together in Israel.
on Wednesday, March 4th, EinherjarVL said
I agree with Cesare, a nation (be it a jewish nation) that cannot survive alone is flawed.
on Tuesday, March 3rd, Cesare said
Until they can establish and maintain a nation-state without billions of dollars in annual foreign aid from the U.S. and other nations, then they will remain "parasites".
on Tuesday, March 3rd, Viridovix said
No, like any other group, they are perfectly able to stand on their own, ragtag guerilla action from hostile neighbors notwithstanding (or other assorted forms of sniveling): they are a first class nation-state now.
This sickly, rather pathetic addiction to gentile helpers as milk cattle weakens the people Israel and weakens those Fundamentalist Christians helping them.
on Tuesday, March 3rd, Cesare said
Jews lack the required genetic qualities to exist "on their own" and form a self-sufficient civilization like Aryans. Since ancient times they have always survived by parasitizing off the labor, occupations and institutions established by the target host race; coupled with numerous social-destructive schemes and scams of their own. They become usurers, bankers, merchants, pimps, pawn and stock brokers, pornographers and various other unproductive vocations.
Cease the billions of U.S. foreign aid to Israel and their "nation" would descend into social anarchy similar to Haiti or Mexico, due to their genetic deficiencies and egocentric natures.